Total - 12 pubs posted
Reply 1:
North wales for a start, it can be 20-30 miles between cider outlets
DH
Reply 2:
From: david lyall
Some outlets for Real Cider in West Yorkshire
Huddersfield district, other than Saxon Cider.
The Head of Steam, Town Centre Changing guest cider. well situated on the Railway Station with a good selection of real ales
The Rat and Ratchet, Chappel Hill changing guest cider. An Ossett Brewery pub with up to a dozen real ales
The Sair, Linthwaite. Westons Old Rosie plus bottled ciders. A former CAMRA National Pub of the Year. a brew pub with an exclusive range of beers
The Albert Hotel, Town Centre. Westons Old Rosie. A traditional town centre pub
The Cherry Tree, Town Centre, a Wetherspoons with thier normal range
Hebden Bridge in the Calder Valley
The Fox and Goose, Heptonstall Road. Rotating guest ciders and perries on handpump. A traditional no nonsense Ale House where larger comes in bottles from foreign partsand smooth is a swear word
Reply 3:
On this subject was in West Midlands yesterday afternoon and the following all had Thatchers Cider on
Wagon & Horses Ocker Hill,
Fountain Lower Gornal
Jolly Crispin Upper Gornall
also the Railwaymans Bridgenorth (Seven Valley railway)
DH
Reply 4:
As far as Herts is concerned, I believe it now shows all the outlets in
the county (a mere 14) - unless, of course, anyone out there knows
differently. The 3 in Beds were all put in by me, because they are
known to me personally - I would put more in if I knew of any more!
What I would think is more important is to add more to the Devon,
Somerset and Dorset sections. At the time of writing, these counties
each appear to have only 14 outlets, on the face of it as many as
Hertfordshire. I somehow doubt this to be the case ;-)
It seems there's a long way to go before the guide can be considered
comprehensive!
Cheers
Paul
Reply 5
How about The Chequers in Woolmer Green, Herts. Is it in the guide? Old
Rosie is permanently on now.
Reply 6
Only 14 in Somerset?!?! I was living there when I was working on the guide
and have 72 on my list all of which were submitted to
CAMRA...amazing....although I perhaps we shouldn't be surprised :(
And in another related thread..
CAMRA have made a bit of a hash of the new guide ! A lot of work was done by a lot of people to collect information for inclusion . Unfortunately due to
inhouse squabbling and a lack of organization , after a number of
postponements CAMRA decided they had to release the new guide despite the fact that clearly a lot of data is missing ! This is a great shame
considering the guide only comes out every 5 or 6 years . This is what makes UK CIDER's wiki site so important . If we can all help to keep it uptodate it will be of more use than the CAMRA guide
In a private reply:
Andy,
Thank you for your kind words. May I return the compliment and say how
indebted we all are to you, for setting up this excellent forum for
Cider. It is both informative and entertaining, as an amateur cider
maker who has recently gone commercial, I have found ukcider very
helpful, indeed a friend to turn to in times of doubt. Being a minority
pursuit, making cider can be a lonesome business and it is a wonderful
thing to be able to experience the help and enjoy the friendship of
people worldwide, who share the same interest.
I am now banned from talking about it here as I have become a terrible
bore on all things appley! I share the cottage with my sister in law
and she has begun to make threatening noises if I as much as mention
the dreaded A or C words! She does not like C, but just now I have the
secret satisfaction that she is enjoying the big red Suntan A s from my
orchard. These are disappearing rather quickly from the bowl on our
kitchen table!
I would not have the self discipline required to set up and maintain
an on line journal. Nor would not want to rival ukcider and am
certainly no expert on the subject. Rather I would like to see more
cider people, especially producers, come on line with us. Living in the
west Country, yes the other 'Three counties' of great cider fame, I
know there are loads of cider folk down here, but they don't seem to
want to communicate. Even the most dyed in the wool country folk now
have computers ( I for one). Are they Internet shy? Haven't they ever
put 'cider' into Google? I really cannot understand it. Paul's recent
lament about cider outlets in the West Country says it all. There are
of course plenty of pubs selling good cider in Somerset , Devon and
Dorset. We just need people who know of them, to add them to the wiki.
I've done my bit for my side of Dorset and I am still discovering more
here. Lots of places seem to be putting Stowford Press on the bar.(
Good for Westons, but not a favourite of mine. It is overpowered by its
CO2).
As for me, I am content to throw the occasional pebble into the
ukcider pond and enjoy the ripples.
It is good fun and a pleasant diversion from washing yet more of my
mucky Somerset C A s!
Reply 7
After returning from the Cider Day celebration in Massachusetts (perhaps
1800 miles) I'm thinking how intensely relative the term 'desert' can be!
OK, I would actually only have to travel not quite 1000 miles to find a
good commercial cider.
If one is constrained to foot travel, or the vagaries of bus and train,
certainly 20-30 miles can seem like an expedition. And if one wants to
consume a reasonable quantity on-premises and come safely home after,
even 20 miles driving is a problem. But at least it can be had!
I suppose I'm trying to encourage you to appreciate how much good cider
you've got more-or-less available to you in the UK.
Reply 8 - gone off topic
Dick
When you have a limited railway system which mainlt skirts the coast, buses that stop at 6 pm except between major population area's and just a few hills blocking direct access it is difficult to get from point a to point b which may be 15 miles as the crow flys but 30 by the road network. An example of this is where I live on the North Wales coast is just a four mile walk to Liverpool accross two river estuarys 30 miles by road.
CGC Thread
> Did anyone actually proof-read the book? I'm sure many of us would have
> volunteered to do it free of charge. Why doesn't CAMRA use its members
> for things like this?
Why indeed! I would have jumped at the opportunity... I think the whole GCG
issue is turning out to be a sorry mess. I'm very sad about that, as the
last (Dave Matthews) issue was pretty good and on the whole, reliable for
it's time. As has been posted already, a virtual guide, on-line and rapidly
evolving to match the current state of play, is the only way forward.
Could say a lot more, but not on here. I feel a good whinge-ing meet over a
few jars of cider/perry to air views and get things off our collective
chests is the way forward... ;-)
More power to the wiki Cider Pub Guide.
Some follow up prompting by me yielded the first Scottish data
me:
On 11/11/05, Fi Wilson <fi.wilson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/11/05, Andy Roberts <aroberts@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/11/05, Fi Wilson <fi.wilson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >uh... OK, I know at least one pub where Stowford Press is the only
> > >alternative to sucrose wine - what's so bad about it?
> > Is it located within our largest geographical cider desert and zero
> > space on the wiki pub guide known as Scotland by any chance?
>
> Well yes but I was a bit hasty - it is the only on-bar choice, they do
> have a larger range of bottled offerings. Or did, last I was there.
Definitely worth sharing then - as in pub-name, town or city, any
address details are better than nothing.
How about Edinburgh?
reply S1:
Clockwork Beer Company, Cathcart Road, (um... just off Battlefield),
South side of Glasgow. Good beer too, and huge range of malts. It's
been sold though, so I don't know what the new owner has done to it.
> How about Edinburgh?
No idea, I don't go to the East coast. ;-)
reply S2:
Still the same Westons Old Rosie mainly on though, at least twospoons also have cider, and the Three Judges had some Cider last time I was in (April)
>
> > How about Edinburgh?
>
A couple of spoons have cider
DH
Late addition:
Hello R , I am also a CAMRA member and have been involved with APPLE in
the past . I like many other members have tried to help raise the profile of
cider & perry so I'm not knocking all these peoples efforts . ........ I think the main problem with pblishing guides is that they are out of date before anyone gets to read them ! The big advantage of wiki sites is that they can be continualy updated . I feel this is the best way forward for any guides . G